TOPIC: AMD Athlon 200GE - New zen+vega based a-series apu

AMD Athlon 200GE - New zen+vega based a-series apu 07 Sep 2018 13:33 #1330420

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Murdoc wrote: ^i dont mind putting an extra stick on my ram slot, if magiging katulad ng performance yan ng discrete GPU, in my 5 years experience sa shop, mas maraming nasirang discrete GPU compared sa iGPU... so i prefer iGPU sa discrete, less space sa case mo, less gasto sa mga sirang GPU, less heat... again, thats if iGPU will match the performance of a discrete GPU with the same amount or lesser amount of investment...


I agree with you.. ^_^

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AMD Athlon 200GE - New zen+vega based a-series apu 07 Sep 2018 13:49 #1330423

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Murdoc wrote: ^i dont mind putting an extra stick on my ram slot, if magiging katulad ng performance yan ng discrete GPU, in my 5 years experience sa shop, mas maraming nasirang discrete GPU compared sa iGPU... so i prefer iGPU sa discrete, less space sa case mo, less gasto sa mga sirang GPU, less heat... again, thats if iGPU will match the performance of a discrete GPU with the same amount or lesser amount of investment...


yup. and memory requirements will only go up. sooner or later maguupgrade ka din ng ram mo. and if ever kailangan mo na ng discrete gpu. meron ka nang matinong ram so walang mawawala sayo.

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AMD Athlon 200GE - New zen+vega based a-series apu 07 Sep 2018 14:01 #1330426

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^the reason bakit kilangan ng dalawang stick, its not about the capacity, its about the ram speed... kahit sobrang taas pa ng ibigay mong ram, pag single stick, mahina parin performance... dual channel means double the speed, two lanes, kaya nga meron high speed DDR5 sa mga discrete GPU kasi need ng GPU ang high speed memory..... yung iba naman yung bago, HBM ang gamit (high bandwidth memory)....

so kung gusto mong e maximize si iGPU, mas ok mga high speed RAM na dual channel pa...

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AMD Athlon 200GE - New zen+vega based a-series apu 07 Sep 2018 14:14 #1330432

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Murdoc wrote:

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Murdoc wrote: is it faster than the ryzen 5 2400g?


Nope. Ryzen line up was made to compete with core series from intel.

Etong new athlon lineup ang pantapat nila sa pentium gold series ni intel.



yung iGPU nya dapat malakas din, para sa mga budget gamers... kahit di gaano kalakas ang CPU nya ok na sana... kahit katulad lang ng celeron ang CPU kung yung iGPU nya same sa 2400g patok na patok sana


you're asking for too much kung 11 vega cores ang hinihiling natin.
gaya nga ng sabi ko, kalevel na niya yung a8 7600 with:

half cpu cores (2c4t vs 4c4t)
half shader units (192 vs 384)
half tdp (35w vs 65w)

this cpu is on par with intel pentium series in terms of cpu performance. (based on paper)

igpu amd wins
tdp amd
price amd(on price to performance ratio) 55$ / ~3k php?

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AMD Athlon 200GE - New zen+vega based a-series apu 07 Sep 2018 14:21 #1330433

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Murdoc wrote: ^the reason bakit kilangan ng dalawang stick, its not about the capacity, its about the ram speed... kahit sobrang taas pa ng ibigay mong ram, pag single stick, mahina parin performance... dual channel means double the speed, two lanes, kaya nga meron high speed DDR5 sa mga discrete GPU kasi need ng GPU ang high speed memory..... yung iba naman yung bago, HBM ang gamit (high bandwidth memory)....

so kung gusto mong e maximize si iGPU, mas ok mga high speed RAM na dual channel pa...


yes i know. and dual channel is included when i said "upgrade" so... yeah :)

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AMD Athlon 200GE - New zen+vega based a-series apu 07 Sep 2018 14:22 #1330434

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A8-7600 lang pala ang katumbas....
how about sa presyo? i think A8-7600 CPU+mobo mas mura parin sa ngayun price drop na...

considering na AM4 socket ito, mas mahal parin ang mobo nito.... not sure though, speculation ko lang.... malalaman rin natin pag dating mismo sa store dito sa pinas

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AMD Athlon 200GE - New zen+vega based a-series apu 07 Sep 2018 14:32 #1330438

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Murdoc wrote: A8-7600 lang pala ang katumbas....
how about sa presyo? i think A8-7600 CPU+mobo mas mura parin sa ngayun price drop na...

considering na AM4 socket ito, mas mahal parin ang mobo nito.... not sure though, speculation ko lang.... malalaman rin natin pag dating mismo sa store dito sa pinas


yes ito din iniisip ko. since mas bago yung mobo at cpu, mas mahal pa to kesa sa lumang cpu.

if ever 3k php ang athlon 200ge at 3k din ang a320 let's say 6k.
AMD A8 7600 - 3100, MSI A68HM-E33 V2 - 2400, let's say 5.5k.

at ang mas mahal na ddr4.

2x4GB Kingston DDR3 1600mhz - 3100
2x4GB Crucial Ballistix Sport DDR4 2400mhz - 4600

2k ang difference sa build.

but in the long run.
35w vs 65w tdp (di ko alam kung magkano matitipid mo since wala akong units for comparison)
and compatibility ng a320 on better cpu.

lahat naman to based on paper palang. maganda to kapag nakita na natin yung actual benchmarks para masabi natin kung sulit ba talaga tong bagong athlon or nakisakay lang sa hype train ng zen at vega arch.

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AMD Athlon 200GE - New zen+vega based a-series apu 07 Sep 2018 16:28 #1330469

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Athlon 240ge : 3 cores / 6 threads - 3.7Ghz - 7 GCU's - 8Mb L3 . $79,
Athlon 220ge : 2 cores / 4 threads - 3.5Ghz - 5 GCU's - 6Mb L3 . $65,

parang ok ung 220ge ung ryzen 3 2200g 8gcu ata

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AMD Athlon 200GE - New zen+vega based a-series apu 07 Sep 2018 17:17 #1330490

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SuperKuya wrote: Athlon 240ge : 3 cores / 6 threads - 3.7Ghz - 7 GCU's - 8Mb L3 . $79,
Athlon 220ge : 2 cores / 4 threads - 3.5Ghz - 5 GCU's - 6Mb L3 . $65,

parang ok ung 220ge ung ryzen 3 2200g 8gcu ata


Source please. Kaduda duda yung 3 cores pero most likely tama yung 5 at 7 cu. Baka 2c4t lahat para di maidikit sa 4c4t 100$ ryzen 3

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AMD Athlon 200GE - New zen+vega based a-series apu 07 Sep 2018 18:02 #1330509

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Duda nga rin ako kita ko lang sa comment sa youtube

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