TOPIC: Policy Statement I-Cafe Pilipinas

Cybertronix wrote:

1. Will the i-cafe Pilipinas planning to propose to the government to implement the zoning initiative, hiwalay ang gaming at non-gaming?

reserve ko to kay Gener.

4. Will the i-cafe Pilipinas dictate the minimum rental prices?
NO prices will still be dictated by the owner. Remember that local ICA are only affiliated but independent to ICafe Pilipinas. If your local ICA deemed otherwise, we have no right to veto ICA agreed rulings. ICA's affiliation are also optional.

Further note.
You can join ICafe Pilipinas even if your local ICAs does not choose to affiliate with the group.

5. Will the i-cafe Pilipinas speak on our behalf?
NO Only on the behalf of it's accredited members and ICA affiliates.

7. Will interfere on how many will I employ?
NO you are bounded by national laws, LGU ordinances, ICA guidelines for that.

2. Hindi ba kami makakakuha ng lisensya kahit ala kaming 20 pc's?
3. Hindi ba kami makakakuha ng lisensya kahit ala kaming aircon?
6. Hindi ba kami makakakuha ng lisensya kahit pangit ang upuan namin?

ACCREDITATION ang ICafe Pilipinas not a LICENSING body.
to get accredited you will have to comply with the minimum set standards approved by its constituents.



rsalvador wrote:

Ok I FULLY UNDERSTAND. Now answer my questions ng matapos na to. YES or NO sa 1-6 ko, tinabunan na ng kung ano ano eh, pakibalikan na lang.

Ayan eh di mas maganda ang usapan. Number 1 still remains in question. Please answer it.

And may I add this very important question.

7. Is i-cafe Pilipinas primary goal is to pass bills that will bound internet cafe to follow(bill na nga sya eh kaya sunod tayo lahat) based on the recommendation of the group? If this is a NO, it would be a relief and definitely supercedes my question number 1-6. And thank you.

<i><strong>One thing to consider is that Netopia grows without interference from any group. Sariling diskarte po yan at di napakialaman kaya tingnan nyo big-time operator na sila. And they started it as small one located in Makati. Kaya pagpasensyahan nyo na po ako. Maraming salamat po sa inyong lahat.<strong><i>

rsalvador wrote:

Mawalang galang na po ano po, gusto kong manggaling sa kinauukulan ang sagot sa tanong ko, mahirap ba yun. Sabi ko nga kanina ayoko ng generic answer, I want it straight forward. "They don't have desire" pero dun po patungo ang kanilang proyekto. Kaya pasensya na po kung mahina man ang utak ko, pero ayoko lang mapunta ang pinuhunan ko sa wala. Malaking pera ang inilabas ko dito sa business na to at marami akong plano kaya please lang, wag kayong magbiro ng ganyan.

Hindi naman po sa hindi nakakaunawa, sa court fight nga po, ang gusto lang pong sagot ay oo at hindi, ala nang rason rason pa.

Sir wala po ako sinabing mahina ang utak mo, gusto ko rin malaman ang sagot na OO at HINDI sa mga itinanong mo kaya nga nirepost ko di ba? Kaya nga din patanong kong sinabi nung i-quote ko kung ayun nga ba sagot sa mga tanong mo? At sana maisip mo din po na LAHAT tayo nasa business na to at ayaw mapunta sa wala ang pinuhunan.

Besides, nasagot na din po ang ilan sa tanong mo after ko mairepost yung sa'yo, sana nabasa mo muna. Though alam ko hindi pa rin kayo satisfied kasi kulang yung sagot (pending pa yung answer sa question one), wait nyo na lang po, sasagot din yan. Di naman every second nakatutok sila sa computer.

Sa sinasabi namang "kinauukulan" sino ba ang mga ito? May officers ba? Sa site kasi si Sir Gener lang ang nasa contact.

Sa iba naman kalma lang po kayo, as they said, on the process pa lang ang group, marami pang pinag-iisipan, pwede naman siguro magcomment / suggest na hindi sarcastic. At mostly, wag nyo po sana damdamin naman itong post ko. Salamat po.

pa RULE na lang ito RAGE.
USELESS and non-PERTINENT posts.

maganda na tema ng usapan, sinisimulan na naman.
kung ampaw at walang katuturan ang sasabihin, sa ibang thread na lang mag-troll.


friday13th wrote:

patay patay tayo dyan jan na gulo na naman..sino ba talaga ang tagapagsalita si cybertronix ba o si sir gener...? kasi iba-iba ng version e..wala pa dito version ni sir bien..

are you guys magkakampi o magkalaban kasi sinisira nang isa ang sinasabi nang isa..hehehe

7. Is i-cafe Pilipinas primary goal is to pass bills that will bound internet cafe to follow(bill na nga sya eh kaya sunod tayo lahat) based on the recommendation of the group? If this is a NO, it would be a relief and definitely supercedes my question number 1-6. And thank you.

NO. Absolutely. Senado at Kongreso lang may kakayahan nyan at napakatagal ng proseso.

STANDARDS lang po at ACCREDITATION. Wala pong politics dito, hindi natin kailangan ng panibagong batas. Consumer market ang industriya natin.

On the contrary ICP opposes bills on several PUBLIC foras whenever Gener & Ed gets invited to voice out their side. Sa mga umattend ng ULOP sa Gateway Max, nakita nyo ito. Sa DLSU fora (public & private sector) to discuss the effects of the ISP filtering, pinakita rin ito.


b]rsalvador wrote:[/b]

Ayan eh di mas maganda ang usapan. Number 1 still remains in question. Please answer it.

And may I add this very important question.

7. Is i-cafe Pilipinas primary goal is to pass bills that will bound internet cafe to follow(bill na nga sya eh kaya sunod tayo lahat) based on the recommendation of the group? If this is a NO, it would be a relief and definitely supercedes my question number 1-6. And thank you.

<i><strong>One thing to consider is that Netopia grows without interference from any group. Sariling diskarte po yan at di napakialaman kaya tingnan nyo big-time operator na sila. And they started it as small one located in Makati. Kaya pagpasensyahan nyo na po ako. Maraming salamat po sa inyong lahat.<strong><i>

ayun naman pala ang ganda na ng paliwanag ni cyber..

itong i-cafe pilipinas ay para sa mga kayang ma meet yung standards nila at para sa mga gustong sumali lang na gusto ring maranasan yung mga benefits na maaring ibigay nito.

so kung ayaw mo sumali or di kayang i meet yung standards nila ok lang dahil wala namang magiging epekto sa mga operators na ayaw or di kayang yung hinihinging requirements. so kahit pa 50 yung minimum na pc na kailangan ok lang..

ako di ko kaya yung requirements nila kaya i say NO.( NO, hindi dahil sa ayaw ko yung adhikain nila).

Dahil literal na nawala yung banyo ko sa shop.... ^_^

Cybertronix wrote:

7. Is i-cafe Pilipinas primary goal is to pass bills that will bound internet cafe to follow(bill na nga sya eh kaya sunod tayo lahat) based on the recommendation of the group? If this is a NO, it would be a relief and definitely supercedes my question number 1-6. And thank you.

NO. Absolutely. Senado at Kongreso lang may kakayahan nyan at napakatagal ng proseso.

STANDARDS lang po at ACCREDITATION. Wala pong politics dito, hindi natin kailangan ng panibagong batas. Consumer market ang industriya natin.

On the contrary ICP opposes bills on several PUBLIC foras whenever Gener & Ed gets invited to voice out their side. Sa mga umattend ng ULOP sa Gateway Max, nakita nyo ito. Sa DLSU fora (public & private sector) to discuss the effects of the ISP filtering, pinakita rin ito.


b]rsalvador wrote:[/b]

Ayan eh di mas maganda ang usapan. Number 1 still remains in question. Please answer it.

And may I add this very important question.

7. Is i-cafe Pilipinas primary goal is to pass bills that will bound internet cafe to follow(bill na nga sya eh kaya sunod tayo lahat) based on the recommendation of the group? If this is a NO, it would be a relief and definitely supercedes my question number 1-6. And thank you.

<i><strong>One thing to consider is that Netopia grows without interference from any group. Sariling diskarte po yan at di napakialaman kaya tingnan nyo big-time operator na sila. And they started it as small one located in Makati. Kaya pagpasensyahan nyo na po ako. Maraming salamat po sa inyong lahat.<strong><i>

eh di ala tayonng problema nyan. At di na kailangang sagutin yung number 1, bat kailangang ipasa pa kay Gener. Of course we know naman that senado at kongreso lang ang may kakayahan nyan. But as a certifying body sino pa ba ang tatanungin kung hindi ang grupo nyo. Pero kung matino kayong kausap at ganyan ang paninindigan ninyo, I hope na lang that you will remember this thread that I ask about this once and for all.

To close the issue, "Is this the official stand of I-cafe Pilipinas?".

Thank you for bearing with me

ohjomz wrote:

Dahil literal na nawala yung banyo ko sa shop.... ^_^[/quote]

hahaha..sir ohjomz baka na misplace nyo lang...

@ I-cafe,


meron bo kayong intensyon sumali bilang party list sa darating na eleksyon?

what if the LGUs implement a policy (as per suggestion of I-Cafe Pilipinas, since they are the forefront of the internet cafe industry in the country) requiring all the aspiring internet cafe to be accredited by the organization (I-Cafe)?

i think it may resulted to:
a) aspiring internet cafe will bound to, whether they like it or not, get the necessary accreditation; or
b) aspiring internet cafe will operate totally underground (unregistered/unlicensed from the LGUs).

ohjomz wrote:

Dahil literal na nawala yung banyo ko sa shop.... ^_^

nadale rin ng boltcutter gang, sir? lol ^_^